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	<title>Comments on: Why Samsung and Tizen could take on Apple and Google</title>
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		<title>By: bmullanmail</title>
		<link>http://research.gigaom.com/2012/01/why-samsung-and-tizen-could-take-on-apple-and-google/#comment-1518</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[applications are what make a phone &amp; tablet attractive to customers.  

there are 40,000+ open source applications available on linux from stock analysis to CRM to whatever you can think of.   all at no cost unless you want consulting, customization, training or other support services which are &#039;for fee&quot;.    But the source code is available and probably would help ensure things like Carrier IQ wouldn&#039;t go undetected for so long.

I know apple &amp; android boast much higher &quot;app&quot; numbers but while many of those apps may be popular (games, music apps etc) most are not useful in business, education, govt, science etc.

Being able to run the same application on your phone/tablet as you have on your desktop, server or Cloud could be seen as having your cake &amp; eating it too without having to design applications to multiple operating systems... a big plus.   Can&#039;t do that with Android or iOS... unless your business is totally web based already.

Many of the major Telecom SPs are already or soon will be Public Cloud providers, ATT, Verizon, are examples here in the states.    This &#039;could&#039; be a means for them to to gain revenue by tying their mobile &amp; cloud (and internet) business&#039;  together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>applications are what make a phone &amp; tablet attractive to customers.  </p>
<p>there are 40,000+ open source applications available on linux from stock analysis to CRM to whatever you can think of.   all at no cost unless you want consulting, customization, training or other support services which are &#8216;for fee&#8221;.    But the source code is available and probably would help ensure things like Carrier IQ wouldn&#8217;t go undetected for so long.</p>
<p>I know apple &amp; android boast much higher &#8220;app&#8221; numbers but while many of those apps may be popular (games, music apps etc) most are not useful in business, education, govt, science etc.</p>
<p>Being able to run the same application on your phone/tablet as you have on your desktop, server or Cloud could be seen as having your cake &amp; eating it too without having to design applications to multiple operating systems&#8230; a big plus.   Can&#8217;t do that with Android or iOS&#8230; unless your business is totally web based already.</p>
<p>Many of the major Telecom SPs are already or soon will be Public Cloud providers, ATT, Verizon, are examples here in the states.    This &#8216;could&#8217; be a means for them to to gain revenue by tying their mobile &amp; cloud (and internet) business&#8217;  together.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Gibbs</title>
		<link>http://research.gigaom.com/2012/01/why-samsung-and-tizen-could-take-on-apple-and-google/#comment-1499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin Gibbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Succinctly put, istvancamargo. Thanks for the comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Succinctly put, istvancamargo. Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: istvancamargo</title>
		<link>http://research.gigaom.com/2012/01/why-samsung-and-tizen-could-take-on-apple-and-google/#comment-1498</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just as Google should produce its own devices - Motorola patent, okay? - I believe that Samsung wants to have its own operating system to sit at the negotiating table. Make sense?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as Google should produce its own devices &#8211; Motorola patent, okay? &#8211; I believe that Samsung wants to have its own operating system to sit at the negotiating table. Make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Gibbs</title>
		<link>http://research.gigaom.com/2012/01/why-samsung-and-tizen-could-take-on-apple-and-google/#comment-1488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin Gibbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment, Justin. 

You&#039;re right that buy-in from carriers will be difficult for Samsung to get, but I think we may see some room develop there: BlackBerry continues to fade away, and Windows Phone has yet to demonstrate any real traction. If those trends continue, I think carriers would welcome a potential major player alongside Android and iOS.

In fact, I think it may all come down to how well Windows Phone sells. If it takes off then there won&#039;t be much opportunity for any newcomer, at least for a while. But if it spins its wheels, the door will remain open.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Justin. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that buy-in from carriers will be difficult for Samsung to get, but I think we may see some room develop there: BlackBerry continues to fade away, and Windows Phone has yet to demonstrate any real traction. If those trends continue, I think carriers would welcome a potential major player alongside Android and iOS.</p>
<p>In fact, I think it may all come down to how well Windows Phone sells. If it takes off then there won&#8217;t be much opportunity for any newcomer, at least for a while. But if it spins its wheels, the door will remain open.</p>
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		<title>By: justinkramp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justinkramp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll go ahead and make the token &quot;What, no webOS mention?&quot; comment.

^^^I don&#039;t know anything about bada, or Tizen, and I&#039;m a relatively decent mobile phone geek. It will be a remarkable feat for Samsung to convince US consumers that a Tizen/bada based phone is more than a passing curiosity (see above-mentioned webOS, and potentially Windows Phone) or niche OS.^^^

Verizon&#039;s &quot;Droid&quot; campaign gave Android a strong awareness--so much so that many of my family/friends (who know that I work for Sprint) still call any Android-based phone a &quot;Droid.&quot; Apple is Apple.  Consumer&#039;s won&#039;t seek out a Tizen/bada phone, they&#039;ll stumble into it.

I see little incentive for carriers to consume yet another OS. The support model for iOS, Android, Windows Phone, BlackBerry and the occasional feature phone (Brew?) has got to be fairly efficient. Ramping up sales and support staff on another discrete, niche platform would be a big investment--Samsung would need to make that a pretty sweet pot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll go ahead and make the token &#8220;What, no webOS mention?&#8221; comment.</p>
<p>^^^I don&#8217;t know anything about bada, or Tizen, and I&#8217;m a relatively decent mobile phone geek. It will be a remarkable feat for Samsung to convince US consumers that a Tizen/bada based phone is more than a passing curiosity (see above-mentioned webOS, and potentially Windows Phone) or niche OS.^^^</p>
<p>Verizon&#8217;s &#8220;Droid&#8221; campaign gave Android a strong awareness&#8211;so much so that many of my family/friends (who know that I work for Sprint) still call any Android-based phone a &#8220;Droid.&#8221; Apple is Apple.  Consumer&#8217;s won&#8217;t seek out a Tizen/bada phone, they&#8217;ll stumble into it.</p>
<p>I see little incentive for carriers to consume yet another OS. The support model for iOS, Android, Windows Phone, BlackBerry and the occasional feature phone (Brew?) has got to be fairly efficient. Ramping up sales and support staff on another discrete, niche platform would be a big investment&#8211;Samsung would need to make that a pretty sweet pot.</p>
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